Homesteading with “THE DANCING FARMER” of Cog Hill Farm!
Check that out right there in the past We’ve talked a lot about the Lacinato or the dinosaur kale but this is more of a I call it like a frilly leaf kale and I’ve grown a lot of there’s several different varieties out there of this style of kale And the commercial guys around here grow a lot of this too. You wanna grab you one So in the past, I’ve tried several different varieties. There’s one called Winterbor, there’s one called darkibor, there’s one called starbor all similar to this style. This is a variety As far as I know maybe there’s one other company online you can get it from but it it’s pretty much exclusive to us This varieties called Blue Ridge and it’s an improved Variety of this curly leaf kale here and I could tell you this is I will vouch for this variety here it’s done a lot better than the Starbor and the darkibor and the winterbor that I’ve grown in the past blue knight blue Knight, that is a pretty kale, now is this open pollinated or is this a hybrid? It’s a hybrid. It’s a hybrid but this particular variety is supposed to do really well for the Stripping the leaves and keep growing like we do the collards and so far it has done really well for me and I believe It’s the variety that is grown around here across the road. So when did you plant this? Hmm when I planted that stuff we waiting on temperatures to break so it was probably September or so. So you got it a good you got it up and growing good before the cold weather come in here. Oh, yeah, and it likes the cold the cold will kiss it a little bit this stuff can take a pretty good frost. Yeah, actually, you know the old timers and they was correct that cold weather make your green sweeter. Mm-hmm now now whether you believe this or not this right here Came off one plant. Wow That’s nice, I got the Lacinato growing in my garden. I’ve got some of that too and that’s a staple for me I always grow that but this right here, if you go make you a kale salad this does really good and let me tell you why. So you’ve got more because the leaves are crinkled, you’ve got more surface area there to absorb a dressing or whatever You want. Mmm some olive oil whatever you put in there. So when you doing a salad like that you want to do something with some crinkles on it because it’s got more surface area To absorb the flavor of the dressing. and the presentation is more profound. That’s right, that’s right. I remember growing up at the local Shoney’s buffet they put this on your plate as a garnish and we didn’t know no better than we didn’t think you’re supposed to eat. You dating yourself little bit there with the Shoney’s buffet. Let’s say hey to everybody hello everyone and welcome to the Row by Row Garden Show. 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So join that group and do that speaking of the group And what we’ve been hearing from people lately everybody’s been worried about this cold spell coming through or that’s that’s is Working through here right now Yeah, it looks like we’re gonna have a colder year than what we normally have now Our average frost date is around end of November, but you know for the last few years it ain’t been on time But this year looks like it crept in here got us got us were supposed to so so we’ve had some cold weather We’re having to get adjusted to it a little bit I wish I would’ve down some things a little bit earlier than what I did I was you know When the heat was here and it seemed like one week it was hot as fire the next week It started getting real cold, but you know You got to get those plants out there when it’s still warm get them growing good So when that cold weather does come through here it doesn’t saple when those plants are small a lot more, you know They can take, they can’t take the cold weather like the can when they get big just like that kale there, that kale there can take a good bit of cold weather, but when it’s just coming out the dirt it’s susceptible to get knocked back it’s susceptible, susceptible That’s a new word. Okay. Yeah, I was talking to a fella in Arizona and he basically said he was like man We didn’t have a fall cause it was hot and then it’s cold and we basically experienced the same thing yeah we did It’s gonna cause some trouble my English peas that I may not get any English peas they’re about a foot tall and You know, I don’t know if they’re gonna have time to do anything most years. I would have been fine Lettuce is gonna be slow carrots are gonna be slow I should have got carrots in early October, but I was behind because everything else was pushed and it’s just one of those things where we’ll make do. Yeah my English peas are pretty much a failure too and I was looking forward to those. You know I planted them early on but I didn’t get them up and didn’t get them established For this cold weather in a normal year when you have that transition time That’s when your peas love to grow and we didn’t have that transition time So, you know, they struggle a little bit with the heat and then bam cold weather will hit em and You know peas and one of those cool weather crops will not hardly germinate in cold cold soil. Yeah. Mine are just creeping along now my consultant farm we planted there’s about two weeks before I planted mine and I think they gonna have a good stand, yeah, and but but I’m not Very hopeful of mine. If I do have a failure, which it looks like it may be I’ll plant me some this early spring and give it another try a lot of people been worried about should they cover their stuff in the cold and and I can’t I can only speak to about the coldest it ever get here, maybe 15 degrees and that’s rare so I can only speak to That I can’t speak to how things hold up at zero or ten But I will tell you as far as getting down to 20 and 15 Most everything in my garden is will be fine. Now when you got a cold spell coming and it the drip makes it easy to do this because you don’t want to leave a lot of moisture on them leaves because it it’ll freeze them and burn them but if you got that drip keep that soil nice and moist It will help insulate the soil. I had a few years ago as a market farmer I know in Mississippi, me and him had some beets going on right along the same time they look good I we got some cool spell coming through and it just burnt mine and his Stayed looking good and the reason was I didn’t have enough soil moisture in place. Yeah, soil moisture is very important most people don’t realize but when those plants are stressed From drought or from dry weather a lot more susceptible to that winter damage. So it is very important and I can speak a little bit further back on this temperature thing, okay. So back in either 83 or 85 it got down to 8 degrees here and when it did it pretty much wiped out everything Cabbage will split and bust down at those temperatures and that head will actually bust open it’s no good after that so if it gets down to 8 degrees You all your brassicas pretty much gonna be wiped out now The one with the exception of collards probably, well collards got burnt back to I think I think best my remember We lost everything. Okay. It was a cold year I mean, I remember it being in we was out in it was eight degrees, it was about during the daytime so that’s how bad it was so You’re gonna lose all your brassicas at that stage now onions and things I don’t remember that there’s probably more people out there that can testify to cool weather like that I think you can probably They will probably handle a little bit more than the brassica family spinach, cabbage, and collards are probably three of the most cold resistant rutabagas are supposed to be, rutabagas are probably another one are the coldest ones that can take a lot of cold You know down to the tens, I don’t think you gonna have a problem That being single digits I may guarantee because if you get something in the low tens for a long period of hours Sometimes it makes a huge difference how long it stays that cold and there’s a lot of variables there that could be You know involved we don’t cover anything here That’s not saying if you got covers, you want to cover something it ain’t gonna hurt nothing I don’t think coverings a bad idea by no means if you want to go through the trouble and if you got the means to do it but I don’t think you’re gonna have any problems in the 20s with your Rutagbages and your cabbage and your spinach and things like that So I wouldn’t really get stressed out a lot about it If we do see we’re gonna get down into the single digits We got some issues there and I’m not sure if coverings gonna help anyway. Swiss chard, they tell me really can’t take any cold. I’ve never grown no Swiss chard chard to know we’ve grown it at the expo, well that we grew at the expo, I was harvesting it all throughout the winter and it did fine right But I some people on the group had said that it just didn’t do well in cold weather and I thought it did well in cold weather, it has for us at least. I don’t know that’s another one. Yeah, so There you have it You know do best you can you’re brassicas are not when it gets this cold And stays this cold and your soil gets cold there not gonna do a whole lot of growing So it’s gonna pretty much sit there. You want to keep the fertilizer to them get moisture to them So when you do have those warm days that they pop back out a little bit, yeah They say onions can take they can take twenty-degree weather as long as it’s just not sustained over three or four days You know, it can take 20 degree nights long as it’s cooked warming up in the day And think about it your bulbs down in the ground, so it’s insulated somewhat If you do get some burn up there on top those things can bounce back and shoot up, oh yeah grow back up. The only thing like I mentioned on my video this week is If you got broccoli heads out and cauliflower heads out, even though those plants could take it It’ll turn those heads to mush and I have covered some stuff before if you’re you know You got broccoli heads that maybe aren’t quite big enough to harvest Then you’re in a little bit dilemma there You probably want to cover them Gary Smeltzer mentioned that and if you’ve got just a few broccoli plants This is a great idea. Just take a plastic Walmart sack and throw over them plants And yeah And keep them covered now the cold weather is going to give us some benefits because it’s gonna kill a lot of our insects So if we do have a cold winter our insect pressure should be less next year cold weather, you know, it has its purpose. Yeah One more thing I was talking to the folks at Dixondale I know a lot of people waiting on the onion plants to ship evidently They had a real wet spell there and they just can’t get out in the field and harvest them So should be next weeks before those ship and you know Give them folks over there a little bit of kindness and patience. I could promise you they wanting to get them onion plants to you Oh yeah, just as bad as your wanting to get them. So, uh, they’ll get them out of there as soon as they can One more thing Few more things fig trees so we about to go all in on some fig varieties. We’ve got about 15 different fig varieties we just got some cuttings and Got them in the greenhouse and rooting them, got them in there and we’ll have to show you an update on that but just just kind of a Tease there. We got some things coming with fig trees down the line Yeah, we got figities pretty bad and the more we look at them the more varieties We want and there’s a bunch of varieties out there Different profiles and all that and we got a good sampling of all of them. That’s right. There’s about 10 to 15 different flavor profiles and we’re trying to we’re gonna have a variety for each profile and Supposedly there’s over 600 varieties of figs out there worldwide. They are a lot of them, that’s a lot. I had a video come out earlier this week on planting lettuce and Somebody commented on there and they said in the wintertime When they’re growing lettuce in the fall or the winter when you don’t have to worry about as much plant disease and humidity They prefer to overhead water the lettuces put it on drip and they ask why don’t we overhead water and you can you don’t Disease is not a big issue this time of year. You can overhead water I’ll tell you why I don’t like to overhead water lettuce. It makes a mess on the plants and in an ideal situation And I know this because we’ve grown in the your high tunnel before, yeah it’s a lot cleaner, and it’s so much cleaner If I could now there’s other crops I need some rain for but if I could have my way Growing lettuce. I’d rather have zero rain feed it all through the drip and It’s just so much cleaner when you harvest it. You don’t have to pull off a lot of the bottom leaves that have got Soil or dirt splashed on them. That’s the reason I don’t overhead just to keep them clean. Yep another thing we’ve had several folks on our customer service line asking about when our 2020 seeds are going to be packed and I wanted to clear up something So a lot of your seed companies out there and I see their emails They’re our 2020 seeds are here, our seeds are packed for 2020. We don’t pack seeds by the year We are always packing seeds and bringing them. We sell seeds year-round. There’s people buying seeds all the time From us so there’s not a season for us We do it year-round I personally don’t like the whole when people put pack for 2020 on that packet because you don’t you don’t that doesn’t tell you anything That just tells you when they pack that doesn’t tell you how Old that seed is when it was germ tested what the germ rate is anything So we give you the germ test date and the rate on there. It’s not packed for a particular year It’s a revolving door around here and we’ll be adding new varieties every day Or every week here throughout into the spring. So there’s not like a Certain date when you can buy those seeds there always available. Yeah it’s a busy time around here. So if you want some seeds and you want to go ahead and you got cabin fever You want to go ahead and get some of your seeds for the year Place your order when you get them in put them in the refrigerator and they’ll be fine. One more thing, we just got a big container in this morning The bottom trays for our seed starting trays and we’ve got some really nice indoor seed starting kits a little smaller scale than those big trays We’ve got some exciting seed starting kits, that’s gonna be available within the next week. Maybe next week on the show we can show of them. Right, so those bottom trays I know everybody’s been waiting just like we have and it’ll take us A few days to a week or so to get product pictures get them on the site And once we do that will let everybody know via our email newsletters Usually how we tell everybody and if you’re not Subscribed to that you can scroll to the bottom of our homepage and there’s a little link there. It says get the newsletter and You’ll be the first to know. Alright, so now we’ve got all that away the the main topic for today’s show and we mentioned this on last week’s show I had To make a little trip to Columbus Mississippi Which was quite a little ride. Yeah, and On the way back I stopped by to see my buddy Jason at Cog Hill Farms and he has a his videos Don’t do it justice, he has a beautiful place. It looks like the North Georgia Mountains up there it’s absolutely beautiful. So we stopped by there for a couple hours and Filmed a little segment that we wanted to air on the show tonight kind of a little impromptu interview Just kind of share with you some of Jason’s homesteading philosophy and what he does and everything like that and he was gracious enough to give us a couple of hats and He sells these I think on his You can get him off his YouTube page, but he makes these himself Really? So these are the same kind of hats The same Richardson hats that we use But he’s got he puts a logo on there himself. Wow He’s a talented feller. When you get you one of these hats, you’re officially part of the COG squad, COG squad That’s right and just from meeting with Jason before we roll this interview I’ll tell you that he is the real deal like what you see On his videos. He is the real deal. There’s a lot of big gardening homestead youtubers out there I call them Homestead phonies and you know who I’m talking about there’s one in Missouri, one in North Carolina, but you got to watch out for Some of those people what they put on their YouTube channel is not how they actually live But I can tell you firsthand. Jason is the real deal So let’s go ahead and roll that interview and then we’ll catch back with you once that’s over So I was rolling through Alabama today, and I wasn’t too far away from Selma and Valley Grand, Alabama And I decided to stop in and see my good buddy, Jason here at Cog Hill Farms Jason’s got a YouTube channel And we religiously watch we really like and if you haven’t seen his channel go ahead and check that out Cog Hill Farms will put a link to that in the description below. So Jason’s here with me today he’s got a beautiful place Really glad that he you know, let us stop by and check it out his gardens looking good things are sprouting up and we just want to ask Jason a few questions today just about gardening and homesteading and You know kind of let us in a little bit on and what you’ve been doing and how long you been doing all this. Absolutely So how long you been homesteading out here and kind of what what led you to take that plunge we um, we’ve been here 14 – 15 years now we lived in the town and Like everything else, it was a slow Evolving process. Um, I lived in town I got obsessed with my lawn yeah, and then you know, it looked like a um, I what can I say it looked like a um a baseball field I mean I just got obsessed with it and then that led into me getting obsessed with landscaping and Then I got in the gardening and then we decided to move to the country and we did and we’re here for a little while and then it Just then we got chickens and then we got goats and it just kinda just kind of just blew up from there So it wasn’t it was just a little bit at a time. A little bit at a time, and then all of a sudden Turn around oh what have I got myself into, exactly what happened. Exactly what happened. Good deal. So you got a lot going on around here you got goats you got geese you even got a peacock, garden peaches Everybody knows about peaches. What’s your favorite Homesteading activity? What’s your favorite thing that you enjoy doing? Probably gardening? Really? I love to garden I mean that’s that’s how I got into it. That’s how, you know if I never would have got obsessed with with Landscaping and flowers and shrubbery and then gardening and that’s we wouldn’t be here. So that’s to me I love gardening and y’all Obviously eat a lot of things fresh, right, y’all put up some stuff from the garden too. Stuff. Yeah Garlic’s one of my things that we did we religiously put up the winter squash which we did the Acorn squash this year, no that was a butternut Butternut squash. Butternut, yeah, and those store for a while. For a while We usually do Seminole pumpkins, but we did those instead this year and the Seminole pumpkins will last I swear they’ll last two years. Oh, yeah. Yeah They’ll last forever, good shelf life on those And they’re so good Speaking of the garden so You mentioned the pumpkins what’s your if you had one crop your favorite crop to eat out the garden that you grow What would that be? Oh Man, you know first initial thing was Tomatoes everybody loves tomatoes, everybody loves tomatoes and I Could eat BLTs every day. Oh man every day, so I would probably have to go with tomatoes I’m about the same way. We like to always keep some bacon cooked in the fridge at my house Yes that way, absolutely, spur of the moment you can make a BLT Any time, any time and we don’t even need Al. Yeah, we can just do BT’s. Yeah, that’s right. or we can just do T’s one of the two so I gotta have some mayonnaise on mine, mayonnaise. That’s right Gotta have some Duke’s mayonnaise. I don’t know what’s to prefer mayonnaise around this part of the world, around here is the umm is where they you know you got Bama mayonnaise, which is pretty popular around here so I bet, I bet. So what would you say if somebody was wanting to get into this lifestyle Animals gardening maybe both or maybe just one, what would be the best advice you could give somebody who was wanting to to Dip the toes in this homesteading lifestyle? Number one is don’t be scared And don’t be scared of making mistakes. I think that’s what a lot of people get worried about and always tell people a lot of times too don’t try to put yourself in a box either because I did it and I think a lot of people get intimidated by it But they see folks like Joel Salatin or Justin Rhodes or whatever and you know, they preached it You know, you got to feed this kind of feed or you got to grow this kind of thing You got to do it this way You got to have this compost you got everything’s got to be organic and then next thing you know You’ve locked yourself in this little box and you end up not doing anything. Mm-hmm And I always tell people just do the best you can with what you got cause not everybody’s got access to organic feed or Organic fertilizers or just that stuff in general, you know just do what you can. Yeah. We see that with gardening, you know a lot of people out there Everybody’s got a different soil type. Everybody’s got a different environment. Everybody’s got a different pest pressure. So, while something like the back to eden garden may work well for some folks it doesn’t really work that well for us right and see you you don’t really I don’t I don’t really do it in a matter of fact I had a friend that did try it and You know it did was horrible. It was terrible. It this stuff did awful in it. Yeah. Yeah but a lot of people have really good success with it so. Yeah. Going back to what you said. You just got to find what works for you, fine what works for you and what’s available to you. You know, if you can’t, you know, if you’re in a rural place and down the road, you know You can’t get certain things. You know, you just can’t get it Yeah, we live out in the country and I don’t know about here But where we live, I can’t really get my hands on a truckload of really finely well done compost I can’t either so I have to use Chicken manure cow manure, whatever I can get my hands on, whatever you get your hands on. That’s right It’s the same way here and a lot of times like with feed, you know I here people, you know Say I can’t grow my chickens because I can’t get non-gmo feed you know where we’re at and a Lot of rural areas you’re not or if you do you’re gonna pay $50-$60 a bag for it So yeah that can become cross prohibitive cost prohibitive real quick like right and always tell people whatever you grow on your property is gonna be way better than whatever you gonna buy in a story anyway, so don’t worry about it. Right do what you. Do What you do. Good deal. Going back to the garden real quick What would you say was the say in the last year or so the biggest game-changer something you’ve done differently in your garden That’s been the biggest game-changer for the way you garden or how productive your garden is. I would say This year and this is gonna sound like a plug for Hoss Tools, but it’s not the Cultivating with the Wheel plow in between my rows every other day, was to me was a huge game-changer. My weeds this year were almost non-existent this year. Mhm Them geese are getting after it back there, them geese getting after it. The kids are back there but and that was, that was big We used to have pressures terrible Yeah, and what what sometimes the message is hard to convey to folks and the wheel hoe makes it easy to do this but it does make it easy, you gotta get out there and Do a little shallow Cultivation, yes, and you don’t really see any weeds. It’s more of a it’s a proactive technique than a reactive technique. That’s right We got a train of geese walking by us right here Geese parade it is a geese parade So you’ve got the double wheel hoe and what’s your favorite attachment for going in there cleaning out or keeping the weeds I like the new sweeps that y’all came out the looks like, the wing sweeps. Yeah, okay Those help to kind of maybe throw a little dirt up on your crops too. Right. Good deal. Good deal See what else we got here So you got a really nice place out here you got looks like you got everything well under control What’s your future homestead dreams, what’s some type of homesteading activity that you don’t currently do that you’d like to add to the mix? As if you’re not busy enough. Yeah, because we’ve tried just about everything we’ve had pigs, rabbits, chickens, Our main plan right now is is of course we’re building a bigger chicken coop and we’re gonna get more Proactive or more involved in selling eggs, which we’ve tried in the past and Not not not too great with it But extending my garden, making my garden bigger, you know at some point I would love to dabble in market gardening. Yeah, I would love to dabble in it and see if I got a market here and then see if something I could do. Mm-hmm, and then I could tie the eggs to it and maybe do like a CSA box. Mm-hmm I would love to kind of Start on that and see if I could possibly do that and then that may migrate into a hoop house and go From there but market gardening is something that’s on the back of my mind big time. Yeah We do a little bit of that and it’s fun. It’s fun. You have to As with anything not get to head over heels with it. Right cause you’ll end up working way more than you need to but it’s fun and if you got a nice productive garden and you got some extra stuff it’s it’s a great way to share that with other people and maybe even you know, hopefully You know our end goal is always to inspire other people to want to grow their own food. Yeah That is true. Yeah, I can see that. Absolutely Our next question which is a little different than what we’ve been talking about. So, how long have you been dancing? Were you ever Classically trained or no, just you just like to dance in college Every since I was walking, I was dancing and then then when I was young that’s when Michael Jackson broke out and that’s when breakdancing broke out Okay, so I was a big breaker and matter of fact when I was seven years old there was this huge breakdancing contest, of course, all these people were 18 plus years old and So I entered it and almost backed out because you know this is crazy seven years old and I won So it is just kind of migrated from there and then it started, you know, hip-hop and freestyle and that’s all it was and then as I got older I’m just not that mobile anymore. Like I used to be, not as limber are you Not as limber, my daughter started taking tap and jazz, and I was like, you know what I maybe I can do that so I started taking tap and jazz and now it’s just tap and I’m not very good at it. Believe me, but I’m learning it. So so yeah, nothing classically trained until now Gotcha. Gotcha. Gotcha. Well you could’ve fooled me The last thing the last question and this is probably the the biggest question We get this on our channel a lot and then a lot of popular homestead channels people wonder time. Yeah How do you manage your time doing all this? You work a full-time job. I’m working full-time job How do you manage all this without going absolutely crazy? You gotta love it Cuz if you don’t you’re not gonna do it, you got to you got to Especially the homestead lifestyle the gardening, not to mention you gotta love making YouTube videos, but if not, you’re gonna get burned out Yeah, um, I got a podcast you got you just gotta love doing it Cuz if not, cuz everybody’s got the same amount of time. Everybody does it’s just how you utilize it, the people that say They don’t have time for something. Yeah, I heard a guy at a conference that I was at he said everybody’s got the same amount of time, it’s just certain people use their resources better than others. I agree 100%, That’s why I say you gotta love it because Everybody’s got the same amount of time, 24 hours in every day, 24 hours in every day. You know, I got a little studio and I actually got a little bed in my little studio upstairs. So if I’m late Editing videos I can just go to sleep up there and get up and go to work next morning. That’s right, that’s right. That’s right. Well good deal well We appreciate you having us here anything we appreciate you giving us a little insight into your homesteading life. Absolutely, like I said people out there if you haven’t subscribed to Jason’s channel go on over there to Cog Hill Farm and do that and you do videos three times a week, I try to do three times a week. Um, Tuesday, Thursdays, and Sundays and I got a podcast that normally comes out on Mondays But it usually is one day that week but typically on Mondays on the podcast. Alright good deal So check him out three times a week Cog Hill Farms. We’ll see you guys. Alright, we’re back. So I hope you guys enjoyed that I know it got a little loud there a couple spots some geese started hollering on us and, boy He has some well-behaved farm animals don’t he I can just see my dog Tank in the midst of all them geese and pet pigs and chickens running around. He’s got three or four dogs and they don’t bother the animals, Tank would have him a time there. There’s chickens there, it”s like old McDonald farm. There’s chickens, goats, he’s got a big old Tom turkey a Little Titus walked up to him, you can just pet him. He’s just sweet as he could be It’s a nice place he’s got real nice folks. I mean, you know, you can tell the cameras friendly to him Just real the kind of people you’d want for neighbors really and as far as his garden goes He’s got the same problem Everybody else has got he wants a bigger garden, but he ain’t he can’t figure out where to put it. Yeah always wanting to expand his garden so Go check out Jason at Cog Hill if you haven’t already And we’re going to get to some questions from last week’s show and if we answer your question on the show Send us an email to [email protected] with your address and we’ll be glad to send you a nice little prize. So our first question comes from Stephen Wyatt And he says any update on the Cherokee tan pumpkin. Is there a taste difference uh This is a two-part question so update on the Cherokee tan pumpkin and then he wants to know with the Bunching onions versus the multiplying onions is their taste difference? He says both seem to serve the same purpose of having green onions, but the multiplied onions are more perennial in nature self-preserving. So I’ll answer the first one first how about that, go for it. So, the Cherokee tan We had a pretty decent crop and we got a decent stash of seeds We’re actually waiting on the germ test to come back on them now So within the next month we should have those we have to lot them We have to send them off for germ test and we bust them up in two different lots We’re waiting on those German test to come back we’re not going to have a huge supply but we think we’re gonna have a decent supply of these Cherokee tans for next year so stay Tuned for that. Let me add to that real quick. So we’ve got we grew a small seed crop will probably make a Little bit of that available. It’ll be limited supply, oh absolutely, cause We got to take the rest of our seed crop and send it to a bigger grower to grow us a big seed crop So then we can it’s a multi-year process And I’m away at this one thing before we get off the Cherokee tan pumpkins I talked to a breeder out in California and I told them and I honestly believe this it’s the most disease and insect resistant Variety pumpkin I have ever seen hands down with the most vigor. Okay, let’s move on. So the onion thing, the onion thing gets a little complicated. We got multiplying onion and we got bunching onions. We’ve got multiplying onions that are heirloom we got heirloom bunching onions that are also multiply planted in the garden and then we’ve got bunching onions that are not heirloom that seeds, is from seeds and then we’ve got regular onions. So I got a lot of different onions growing I don’t know the answer to some of this right yet We’re going to do some extensive testing a little later on in the year. We got this guinea onion That is a multiplying onion But it is a bunching multiplying onion and then we’ve got the regular nesting onion that we talked about growing So these these old heirloom varieties have really picked my interest a lot You’re right You know You can’t save your seed stock from year to year and they they do preserve themselves if you take care of which is a great a great thing some of these others that were grow from seeds like these Conventional bunching onions and everything are a little bit different and we’re gonna probably do some videos later on Keeping out so stay tuned on the onion thing We’ve got a lot of good content coming out on that, later on when we start doing our our testing they all up and Growing well now in our test plot, looking good and I’m excited about trying and showing the differences in those. Alright. Alright, so Mr. Seth Zinsmeister, that’s pretty good. Yeah, he wants to know from Travis Why is it that you grow onions and leeks from seeds but garlic and shallots you don’t? Okay, so let’s For different crops were talking about here Let’s start off with the first two onions and leeks You can grow onions and leeks from seed or you can get plants from somewhere like Dixondale, okay You can do either and from my experience testing both I either works fine You got to start a little earlier. If you’re gonna do the grow them from seeds grow your own Transplants the the reason you do either one is just based on timing. For instance Dixondale doesn’t start shipping leek plants till January because it takes a long time for Leeks to grow out in the ground like they’d grow onion plants. I’ve talked to Brian about it He said he don’t know what it is, but it just takes forever Now if you grow like we’re doing the seed trays you can grow them out pretty fast So if you want to grow leeks starting in the fall and succession plant them like we do or like I’m doing this year Go from seed, onions just depends on time And if you want to have onion plants already in the ground, you know We’ve got seed you can you can do that, If you want to wait till whenever the plant company ships you can do that as well We’re doing a little bit of both. So with the onions and leeks, it’s just timing. Shallots, you can actually plant shallots from seeds, you can plant them from sets Like we have the little immature bulbs or you can plant them from plants I think Dixondale sells shallot plants. So it just depends on what you want there. You can do it either of those three ways. Garlic The only way I’ve ever heard of planting garlic is is from the bulbs kind of like potatoes You don’t ever hear everybody selling or planting potato seed. Can I add a little bit to that? Sure On your onions, on your shallots, and your leeks you don’t want to direct seed this out in the garden seed by seed one at a time. You either want to grow them in seed trays or you wanna grow them in beds. From seed, then you pull those transplants up and then you set them in your garden work a lot Better that way. It’s not like growing corn or beans, you don’t go out there and direct seed your your onions You either got to grow in a bed and let me tell you something if you got a 4×4 bed raised bed garden That’s an ideal spot to grow your onions plants you can do that in seed starting tray But you don’t direct seed it out there. So we want to clear that little bit up and main reason to that is your weed competition is Yeah will overtake you. Yeah it’s just not feasible. Alright. Third question here’s from Bren C. and it says question for Greg Do you make your cornbread with buttermilk or sweet milk and do you bake it in the hot iron skillet for a thick crunchy crust? Will you share your recipe when it’s perfected. Well, I’m still working on that Perfecting it, but I have tried sweet milk, and I have tried buttermilk I’ve tried several different Recipes there and one thing I’m not going to do a lot of recipes show adding sugar a little bit of sugar I’m just dead set against that I try to stay away from sugars as much as I can you can tell my boyish figure I don’t do a lot of sugar. So Sweet cornbread to me is just out. I don’t want sugar in my cornbread. So I always scratch that out But I’ve tried several different recipes. I’m still perfecting a little bit But one thing I always do always use my cast-iron cornbread griddle I got two of them, both of them are well-seasoned I love my cast iron if you come to my house And I’m doing some cooking. You can bet you it’s done in the cast iron I got a huge collection of cast iron and that’s what I cook with and my cornbread griddle is the one I make cornbread on so I’ll keep you updated on that when I find the recipe, I like the best. Yeah, in fact you get one of those big manifolds that hang from the ceiling to hang all your cast iron. I made me one didn’t I, hung up there, we got a high ceiling and I hang it up there when I get ready for my cast-iron pots I just reach up there and get it bring it down Mm-hmm but everybody’s got their fetishes cast irons a little bit mine I quit it But I used to go to a flea market and I found an old good cast iron pot boy I get the shaking all over and I’d have to end up buying it but I bought so many of them, I had to work myself out of that and I try not to buy no more cast iron because I Got way more than I will ever use. You can’t cook but one or two at a time. You can’t, that’s right. Alright. So hope you guys enjoyed this week’s show next week. I can’t promise but there’s a good chance We’ll be in our new studio next week and if we are then we’ll try to show you what this looks like. Zoomed out version So you can see how we’re moving on up got a lot of great things coming. So stay tuned Alright. Y’all have a good one. We’ll see you next week.