Shady Internet Tractor Package “deals”


[music] -It’s Thursday
so we’re going to put three minutes on the clock down here
and answer the question for you today,
why are internet package deals for tractors a bit of a scam? [music] [music] -One of the things that annoys us
when we go and we see these internet package deals
is that oftentimes these packages aren’t necessarily great values
for the customer in the end. The real reason why you see
these things put together is because major equipment manufacturers
will have restrictions in place to prevent dealers from advertising
sub MSRP pricing. We’re not allowed to go
and put together a really aggressive price
for a new piece of equipment, and blast it out there
on the internet and see who bites. The way that some dealers
will choose to get around that is by putting together package deals. By taking a tractor
and then pairing it with some
really inexpensive implements, or a cheap trailer
or something they can hide the actual price of the tractor
in this larger package, and thus be able to advertise
some of these things. Now, where it starts to make us
a little bit uncomfortable, and really feel like some customers
might be not really getting the best deal
in that kind of situation is in a couple of areas. Typically,
the implements that are chosen in order
to put those packages together are the cheapest of the cheap. You go out and pick up
a couple box blades from China or a couple trailers from
a less than reputable manufacturer, and you can start to put together
these configurations where a lot of the add-on items
just aren’t a very good quality. That’s something
we’re always cognizant of when we’re selling equipment,
we just don’t want to sell of cheap stuff. We want to sell good stuff,
stuff that’s going to last and serve you well. When we see
these things put together with less than ideal implements
you just look at these things and shake your head. The other thing
that typically happens too in these package deals
is that the configuration of the tractor itself is usually
the absolute bare minimum configuration
for that model. Tires, for instance,
most of the time you’ll see a package deal put together. It will be put together
with AG tread tires. Now, virtually
every one of the tractors that goes out of our dealership
usually will go out with the R4 industrial tire,
it’s more heavy-duty, it has more rubber in it,
the sidewalls are heavier, they don’t puncture as easy
and they’re a lot more friendly on turf. Now there’s applications
for every tire option that you would want
but the reason why the AG tires are put in those package deals
is because they’re several hundred dollars
less expensive than the industrial tire
that serves most people the best. When we see these things put together
it just we always want to sell the right tractor
and the right configuration to the right person,
and not just generally do it in the cheapest way possible. Another thing, that falls
into that same scenario is the skid loader quick coupler. A quick coupler can add $350-$450
or so to the price of a packaged tractor,
but most people should be buying that quick coupler
it opens up your loader to a world of possibilities,
but again that’s added expense that you won’t find
in those package deals. My recommendation
to guys that are out there searching for tractors
is always to sit down and start with your application. Don’t go out there
and look for just the cheapest darn thing that you can find. Sit down and take a look
at what you’re going to be doing, and identifying
what tires you should be buying, and should you have
a skid steer quick coupler and really hone in
on those things first to make sure that you’re buying
the right tractor for your application,
and not just necessarily the cheapest thing that’s out there. If we can help you
through that process give us a call at Messick’s. We’re available at 800-222-3373
or online at messicks.com [music]

21 comments on “Shady Internet Tractor Package “deals””

  1. Jason C says:

    Thanks, Neal! I knew those packages were a scam, but this just confirms.

  2. Aldi More says:

    Yep, look close at the 7k trailer with two 3500lb axles and tires rated for less than 6k.

  3. Robert Fakler says:

    Good information to know. Thanks.

  4. AussieMusicRocks says:

    Damn you Wes Pandy. Because of you I now watch Messick's videos! 😉
    Is Messick's a part of the Agco group?

  5. Debra Deis says:

    It was true for me that Loren helped me find the right tractor and combination of implements.

  6. Sam Harris says:

    good information..thanks for sharing

  7. Brett Buckley says:

    Neil you mention the quick coupler loader attachment. My dad bought a L3200 with the pin on style loader, its really annoying not being able to use other attachments like pallet forks. You said the quick coupler would add 350 to 400 dollars to the price of the package. What would it cost for the loader side of the quick coupler to buy it after the fact?

  8. Bruce Ingram says:

    Kubota tractor in Ripley, MS. Yep. Box blade, quick hitch, and rake. All for b or bx series. For my L3901.
    Buyer beware.

  9. Fla-bushcraft Prepper says:

    We are looking for a tractor with AG Tires, and so far, the Kubota Dealership in our area is the only place we were able to look at a tractor in the size we are interested in, with AG Tires. Every other place has Industrial or Turf Tires. We picked up 5 acres, are looking at the 2 acres next door and definitely want to farm 1 or 2 acres, plus use most of the other property for growing Bamboo. With that in mind, we feel the AG Tires are more suited for what we will be doing.

    Love the videos. I actually either watch your channel lately in the evenings… well it is 12 am now, but also if I do not watch your channel, I watch movies on DVD. You could pass for Deadpool's little brother, or Green Lantern's little brother. Or both, depending on if you like both movies. I personally like both.

  10. moultonditcher says:

    Never buy a Kubota or any tractor unless it has the standard quick attach plate.Spend the money,if you can afford new,you can afford a quick plate,simple.Also the quick attach opens up the market for the buyer to purchase a lot more attachments,used and new.Also,a big mistake is buying a tractor with no loader.Spend it once,spend it right.

  11. roy hoco says:

    encountered 2 tractor scams on craigslist – one tractor I recognized, it belonged to a friend, the photo was his tractor in front of his home. called my friend to alert him. second time I smelled a rat right away expensive JD advertised for ridiculously low price and transaction was through a 3rd party. I asked a few questions and the ad disappeared.

  12. Haley Decker says:

    Thank you for these videos. They really helped me out. Great info as always!

  13. misty dawolf says:

    Can you review the rtv-x1140?

  14. bones549 says:

    ok now the internet is scarring me. I was just looking at a package deal and then this pops up. Know this is old, but I will need a trailer, so what would you recommend. ?

  15. MiserableOldFart says:

    Dealers should be allowed to advertise prices on equipment. It's very frustrating when you can't get an exact price from dealers unless they think you're ready to sign on the dotted line this instant. Kubota at least gives you an idea of MSRP equipped on their web site, but New Holland only gives you the base price without a loader. Even car dealers, which are pretty much as shady as it gets, at least have price tags on their vehicles.

  16. Jody Scheitler says:

    Thank you for this particular video! This is excellent information for a novice who wants to purchase themselves their first tractor.

  17. Michael Rhoads says:

    There's also shady finance stuff the more you finance the more "dealers reserve" is made.

  18. Henry Skinner says:

    If you came into our dealership I prices on the implements are all the same you must be on a salary

  19. Lawrence DeLong says:

    Great Video..This was the same way I ran my Kubota Dealership; Being Honest and telling the customers the true facts. OH YEA !

  20. Rotten Luck says:

    Good advice. You get what you pay for, and less frustration with more functionality is worth the money.

  21. Kevin Brewer says:

    Not all package deals are shady!! You forgot to point that out .you have to use your head when buying a tractor !! Look at the equipment . Dose it look like good equipment? Are the dealers in high sale dealers ? how are the reviews ? on and on.

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